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    Rip out the tracks!!

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    So since the Adirondack Scenic Railroad didn't accept the state's compromise offer to spend millions of dollars to rebuild the tracks to Tupper, the state should just drop the complete project. In other words by suing the state the ASR essentially said 'all or nothing.' So they "won" and should get nothing. Why should the state (we, the taxpayers) give money to an organization who just sued us? Wait a few years until the hobby railroaders go broke without taxpayer support, then the state can revisit the plan without geting sued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamcotrailrider View Post
    So since the Adirondack Scenic Railroad didn't accept the state's compromise offer to spend millions of dollars to rebuild the tracks to Tupper, the state should just drop the complete project. In other words by suing the state the ASR essentially said 'all or nothing.' So they "won" and should get nothing. Why should the state (we, the taxpayers) give money to an organization who just sued us? Wait a few years until the hobby railroaders go broke without taxpayer support, then the state can revisit the plan without geting sued.
    Well said. The plan to pull 34 miles of track on the north end and refurbishing the line to Tupper from Big Moose would be quite detrimental to snowmobiling since there is much more traffic that would be disrupted on the southern end by a snow train to Tupper. Luckily for us, if the ASR has to pay to refurbish the line on their own it will never happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamcotrailrider View Post
    So since the Adirondack Scenic Railroad didn't accept the state's compromise offer to spend millions of dollars to rebuild the tracks to Tupper, the state should just drop the complete project. In other words by suing the state the ASR essentially said 'all or nothing.' So they "won" and should get nothing. Why should the state (we, the taxpayers) give money to an organization who just sued us? Wait a few years until the hobby railroaders go broke without taxpayer support, then the state can revisit the plan without geting sued.
    The state can't drop the whole project because they already started it. The have been cutting brush, and trees all along the rails around Tupper sinse last winter. Even had part of C7 closed last March.

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    The tree brushing project between Big Moose Station and Tupper Lake will benefit snowmobile traffic, and a future trail IF the State takes the correct action going forward.
    And the ASR won't be running any snow trains north of Remsen. Hell, when theres leaves on the rails and it rains, many times they can't pull their boxcars up even the slightest inclines with leaf peepers as passengers ... Forced to back down the rails!
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    What they're failing to mention is that $125,000,000 is needed to repair/replace the 100 year old railroad ties, culverts, etc. I think the last time a train ran from Utica to Lake Placid was the 1980 Olympics!

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    Default State files a Notice of Appeal

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    Unhappy The comments.

    800..... Thanks for the link.

    Has anyone read the comments at the bottom of the article...?

    It seems that those rails are going to sit just like they are for years to come.
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    Seems like the State should address the issues that were used to achieve the ruling in this case, as well as appeal it.
    Updating the Master Plan would be a good start, wonder if they're working on that?
    The two disputed sections, State could probably resolve those issues> I think thats in process now?
    NYS has a lot of things on its plate with limited resources, cant do everything all at once.

    This problem is small change compared to the Constitutional issue of "Forever Wild"
    Can't wait to see what will result from that lawsuit.
    My guess is the Judge in that case is waiting until after the next vote to rule on that, to avoid driving a ConCon
    but thats just another conspiracy theory since I have no evidence of that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polarizer View Post
    Seems like the State should address the issues that were used to achieve the ruling in this case, as well as appeal it.
    Updating the Master Plan would be a good start, wonder if they're working on that?
    The two disputed sections, State could probably resolve those issues> I think thats in process now?
    NYS has a lot of things on its plate with limited resources, cant do everything all at once.

    This problem is small change compared to the Constitutional issue of "Forever Wild"
    Can't wait to see what will result from that lawsuit.
    My guess is the Judge in that case is waiting until after the next vote to rule on that, to avoid driving a ConCon
    but thats just another conspiracy theory since I have no evidence of that
    “Limited resources”???? Really look at Puerto Rico! More like confused priorities..

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