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    Quote Originally Posted by 800cc28 View Post
    Wisconsin DIDN'T go the route of all aftermarket exhausts are illegal. It has to be louder than OEM stock for the year, but cannot be louder than the current testing procedures (The "generally-accepted SAE J2567 is 88 decibels at 4,000 +/- 250 RPMs at 4 meters). Our NYS law also states that snowmobile exhausts cannot be louder than OEM stock.

    NYS Law 25-17 e) Mufflers. An adequate muffler system in good working condition. On
    and after June first, nineteen seventy-two, no snowmobile manufactured
    after June first, nineteen seventy-two shall be sold or offered for sale
    unless it is equipped in such a way as to limit noise produced by the
    snowmobile to not more than eighty-two decibels as measured on the "A"
    scale at fifty feet. On and after June first, nineteen seventy-five, no
    such snowmobile manufactured after June first, nineteen seventy-five
    shall be sold or offered for sale unless it is equipped in such a way as
    to limit noise produced by the snowmobile to not more than seventy-eight
    decibels on such scale. On and after June first, nineteen eighty, no
    such snowmobile manufactured after June first, nineteen eighty, shall be
    sold or offered for sale unless it is equipped in such a way as to limit
    noise produced by the snowmobile to not more than seventy-three decibels
    on such scale. On or after November first, two thousand thirteen, a
    person shall not operate a snowmobile unless the snowmobile is equipped
    with a muffler in good working order and in constant operation from
    which noise emission does not exceed either seventy-eight decibels at
    fifty feet at full throttle, as measured using a generally accepted test
    for a snowmobile manufactured after July first, nineteen hundred
    seventy-seven and sold or offered for sale in this state, or
    eighty-eight decibels, as measured at four meters from an inline
    position from the exhaust and four thousand rpm using a generally
    accepted test for using a stationary snowmobile manufactured after July
    first, nineteen hundred eighty and sold or offered for sale in this
    state. Should the federal government adopt snowmobile noise level
    standards different from those contained in this paragraph and require
    that the state conform thereto, the commissioner shall be authorized to
    adopt rules and regulations superseding the noise level requirements of
    this paragraph to achieve compliance with federal standards. No
    snowmobile shall be modified by any person in any manner that shall
    amplify or otherwise increase total noise emission to a level greater
    than that emitted by the snowmobile as originally constructed,
    regardless of date of manufacture.
    What is a rider to do when he gets ticketed for an exhaust that doesn't pass the decibel test but it is completely OEM? How does he remedy the problem if it's a 20 year old sled and replacing the defective exhaust components isn't an option?

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    The deal is, any law made has to be enforced. You can make laws, but if they are not enforced, what the heck good are they? That comes down to the state, the Leos, and the Magistrates. Put more of the fine money back into the LEO entity that wrote the ticket, and we will see better trail policing. Most local/county Governments wont do something unless there is a payback in it for them
    . LOL. And raise the fines. Make it hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orangef7 View Post
    What is a rider to do when he gets ticketed for an exhaust that doesn't pass the decibel test but it is completely OEM? How does he remedy the problem if it's a 20 year old sled and replacing the defective exhaust components isn't an option?
    Well, what does a driver do when his 20 year old car muffler is rotted out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by XCSP800 View Post
    I was talking with John Prusak, editor of SnoGoer at the Syracuse Show about loud sled pipes.

    He said Wisconsin's law is No Aftermarket Exhaust Allowed, with a decent fine if caught.

    I told him I wish NY law was also No Aftermarket Exhaust Allowed, but if caught, immediate confiscation of the sled!
    Sign over the Reggie, take you personal belongings, and find your own way back to truck or home.

    The exhaust would be removed and sold to a shredder and sleds sold at a big public auction after season with all money going to trail fund.

    He laughed, said well, that's a little extreme...

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    Yea that's just pure stupidity talking. Lol then after asll that the coo should take your wife home give her anoither kid and you pay for it since he'd not married to her. 🤔🍻
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    Quote Originally Posted by orangef7 View Post
    You all assume that these loud sleds are new with brand new pipes. A lot of times they may be a 10 or 15 year old sleds. Sometimes it is a young riders first sled or a families 2nd or 3rd machine. In some of these cases an oem exhaust may not be available. Maybe it isn't worth putting a $5-600 oem exhaust system on a $1000 sled. The sport is probably doomed anyways due to inconsistent weather and snowmobile prices that the average family can't afford to buy. A loud pipe can't close a trail that doesn't have any snow on it.
    That's exactly my point in an earlier post. I said about the same scenario. 👍 see someone else thinks too
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    Quote Originally Posted by bumblebee View Post
    Let's face it. they know who they are. there's no way that anybody who runs a can doesn't know that they are illegal. One thing i notice about snowmobiling is that there's a certain sense of anonymousness. when you're wearing a helmet and gear and you have the ability to speed away and not be caught or be recognized. There is no point in confronting them because you'll end up in a fist fight because they are arrogant people. Usually with a group of other arrogant people. It literally comes down to attention, they need attention. They want to be looked at and viewed as a" hey I want to be like him". Oh and then there's all the girls that love it too. The guys with the pipes get all the chicks at the Tug Hill Inn!!
    Bigger fines are the only way Imo. Impound their sled make it a total pain in the a&& for him. Then he can tell his arrogant friends how much of a pain it was and how much it cost him. Maybe they'll listen because they sure don't listen to the landowners that are providing them the trail.
    And that wasn't directed at u specifically. Just another theory on your confiscation of the sled
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack4cards View Post
    Well, what does a driver do when his 20 year old car muffler is rotted out?
    They take there car to Monroe muffler. Will a muffler shop have an oem equivalent replacement for a snowmobile?

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    Quote Originally Posted by orangef7 View Post
    They take there car to Monroe muffler. Will a muffler shop have an oem equivalent replacement for a snowmobile?
    Kinda doubt it, LOL. But if they want to ride, they will find one.

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    If the current laws were being enforced and the loud sleds ticketed and fines upheld, I'm betting the aftermarket can manufacturers would be quick to offer replacement cans that meet the stock sound levels.

    Feeling sorry for the person, their situation, or how they're going to correct it should not be a consideration of LEOs, or court system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sledrider80 View Post
    That's exactly my point in an earlier post. I said about the same scenario. 👍 see someone else thinks too
    Okay so one poor kid on Tug Hill father bought him a snowmobile and forgot to look under the hood and see there was an exhaust pipe on it. I know there's an exception here and there but I've never bought a sled without an exhaust system on it and I've never had one "wear out"so to speak. We all know those aren't families that we're talking about here. That may account for 1% of the people using loud exhaust. The people that are using the loud exhaust don't even look at this site.

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