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    Default New "No Registration Fines" Passed


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    Glad to see the percentage to law enforcement was increased. By how much?
    Despite what you read on this site, we are in the Golden Age of Snowmobiling.
    Our trails are in good to excellent condition 90% + of the time.
    Our clubs are, for the most part, well-run by dedicated volunteers and leadership.
    Grooming is pretty consistent across the State.
    Your sled is likely the most comfortable, reliable and fuel efficient snowmobile you've ever owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrwellianCamper View Post
    Glad to see the percentage to law enforcement was increased. By how much?
    Amount available was increased by $50k statewide, and the percentage was increased from 50% off the Couty capped maximum to 75%. Incentive to get more patrols out on the trails.
    Stay Right and BETWEEN the Stakes!!

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    I like seeing that the improper sticker placement is no longer the mandatory $200 fine. A lot of those tickets were dismissed because it was so high.

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    It would be nice to see an increase to at least $150 for non club member registrations. Not sure what the percent of non club member registrations is but why not raise the cost to get it closer to 0%?

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    Quote Originally Posted by firecat12 View Post
    It would be nice to see an increase to at least $150 for non club member registrations. Not sure what the percent of non club member registrations is but why not raise the cost to get it closer to 0%?
    About 12% historically pay the full non-club registration fee. That rate puts $95.00 of the $100.00 into the Trail Fund. The discounted registration fee puts $40 of the $45 in. If every person who chooses to pay the full $100/sled fee joined a club and paid the lower rate, the fund AND the club's take (including the amount available in the Trail Fund as well as club dues) would be less.
    As a note to your suggestion, the NYSSA Govt Affairs Committee is putting out feelers in Albany about increasing the non-club rate to $120/sled, due to a bunch of emails to NYSSA suggesting an increase.
    Is it the right time, after 2 straight bad winters (and only 1 good one in 4 years) along with a less-than-stellar Upstate NY economy and jobs outlook?
    Would people leave the sport altogether?
    Or would the ones paying the $100/sled now, whatever their reasonings may be, just pay the $120/sled IF it went forward?

    All questions that NYSSA is looking to hear answers/opinions to from the NY snowmobile community directly to their Officers and staff via email.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 800cc28 View Post
    About 12% historically pay the full non-club registration fee. That rate puts $95.00 of the $100.00 into the Trail Fund. The discounted registration fee puts $40 of the $45 in. If every person who chooses to pay the full $100/sled fee joined a club and paid the lower rate, the fund AND the club's take (including the amount available in the Trail Fund as well as club dues) would be less.
    As a note to your suggestion, the NYSSA Govt Affairs Committee is putting out feelers in Albany about increasing the non-club rate to $120/sled, due to a bunch of emails to NYSSA suggesting an increase.
    Is it the right time, after 2 straight bad winters (and only 1 good one in 4 years) along with a less-than-stellar Upstate NY economy and jobs outlook?
    Would people leave the sport altogether?
    Or would the ones paying the $100/sled now, whatever their reasonings may be, just pay the additional $120/sled IF it went forward?

    All questions that NYSSA is looking to hear answers/opinions to from the NY snowmobile community directly to their Officers and staff via email.
    Snowmobiling is already a rich mans sport at todayís prices. People are going to continue leaving the sport due to the expense of gasoline, registration, trailering to find snow, lodging, etc. Iím just glad that I was here to enjoy it during the 90ís and early 2000ís.

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    does this new change mean a landowner can no longer use his or her snowmobile on his or her land unregistered, say a farmer that uses one to check fences periodically throughout the winter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim P View Post
    does this new change mean a landowner can no longer use his or her snowmobile on his or her land unregistered, say a farmer that uses one to check fences periodically throughout the winter?
    No.
    The Vehicle and Traffic law was not amended by this bill in that regard

    http://ypdcrime.com/vt/article47.htm

    11. Exemption. No registrations shall be required for the following
    described snowmobiles:
    (a) Snowmobiles owned and used by the United States.
    (b) Snowmobiles covered by a valid registration or license of another
    state, province or country, as provided in subdivision twelve of this
    section.
    (c) Snowmobiles operated on lands owned by the owner of such
    snowmobile, or on lands to which such owner has a contractual right
    other than as a member of a club or association provided (i) the
    snowmobile is not operated elsewhere within the state, and (ii) no
    consideration, either direct or indirect, is paid to the owner of the
    snowmobile with respect to such operation

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    Thank you Polarizer...

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